tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post3423327412152458111..comments2024-03-10T01:57:38.017-08:00Comments on NorCal Cazadora: Which hunting photo is upsetting?Holly Heyserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-56509931176322243352010-02-04T00:34:38.316-08:002010-02-04T00:34:38.316-08:00Excellent post. I was just thinking of this recent...Excellent post. I was just thinking of this recently. People find hunting to be cruel, but don't think anything of inhumane conditions of factory animals or that they are killed for food because all they see is the package on the meat counter.LNicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11258796791690817981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-91665775909347604242010-01-19T22:19:48.903-08:002010-01-19T22:19:48.903-08:00Holly, the most offensive part of these photos is ...Holly, the most offensive part of these photos is the big, fat spoony bill staring at you in the second photo! The horror of it all!!! LOL. Seriously, I don't get the problem with the bottom photo, but then again my dog helps me put meat on the table every time we go hunting so I'm not the audience to ask about this. If it weren't for my dog I would lose more game and there would be Jon Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517639796366064724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-57851227947407659872010-01-13T14:54:03.344-08:002010-01-13T14:54:03.344-08:00Hi Holly,
A really good read and something that I ...Hi Holly,<br />A really good read and something that I would like to reprint in a future issue of "The Pines Review." Heck, I'll even pay you a few dollars for it (not many, I'm always broke). <br />Hunting and fishing photos and the issues which surround them is a topic that outdoor writers and photographers are always being forced to deal with. <br />I need to stop over andGalen Geerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11252610309377046803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-58752713777899795322010-01-13T00:10:26.546-08:002010-01-13T00:10:26.546-08:00Hey, Holly --
Isn't it amazing? I've just ...Hey, Holly --<br />Isn't it amazing? I've just chalked it all up to the automatic PC response that has overcome our society in the last 30 years. As a fellow photographer, you might appreciate this metaphoric memory:<br /><br />I was at a three days workshop run by National Geographic and led by the then new Photo Director Tom Kennedy. I brought my portfolio that mainly revolved around myCork Grahamhttp://corksoutdoors.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-53497333481564284592010-01-11T21:29:03.841-08:002010-01-11T21:29:03.841-08:00Thank you, Ardenwoodjoe! A dog is somewhere in my ...Thank you, Ardenwoodjoe! A dog is somewhere in my future - I'm just not sure when.<br /><br />I'm with you on feeling sorry for people who were bothered by that photo, though I'm sure they wouldn't welcome my pity. I myself wasn't the least bit prepared for how important hunting would become in my life until I did it. I really had no idea how meaningful it would be.Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-50093016029533914252010-01-11T21:08:39.390-08:002010-01-11T21:08:39.390-08:00Regarding ardenwoodpatti's sequence of Pete: B...Regarding ardenwoodpatti's sequence of Pete: Before Pete I hadn’t been upland hunting in 25 years. I didn’t know a blind retrieve from a blind alley and I certainly wouldn’t get up at 5 AM to drive 2 hours to spend the day throwing dead ducks for other similarly afflicted persons. Pete and his grandson Zip(!!!) started me down that slippery slope and I’m so much the richer for it. Because of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-50290547720303702602010-01-11T18:48:35.776-08:002010-01-11T18:48:35.776-08:00And they grasp the idea that fluffy, their baby do...And they grasp the idea that fluffy, their baby dog who sleeps in their bed could or would be involved..lol.. great work once again HollyStacey Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735896924805332261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-20346082471315741812010-01-11T18:39:15.569-08:002010-01-11T18:39:15.569-08:00From the non-hunter of the group, the second photo...From the non-hunter of the group, the second photo bothered me the most. And I'm a lover of meat. Unlike most, I just have issues with the blood thing. I know where most of my meat comes from but I just can't get over the whole death/blood thing. <br /><br />I thought nothing of the dog photo mostly because I see it as a hunting dog and that's what they do. Those that have issues, The Hunter's Wifehttp://www.thehunterswife.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-50350687976917314932010-01-11T16:33:21.356-08:002010-01-11T16:33:21.356-08:00I pegged which one it was before you even said it....I pegged which one it was before you even said it. People have very skewed views in our society. <br /><br /> They may look at the first photo and not be concerned about the butchering because they eat meat. They see that other photo and all they can think is that it's "animal cruelty" or something. Because that's a hot button issue in our society. <br /><br />It's no Jason @ International Sporting Clays.comhttp://internationalsportingclays.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-43973877155999823092010-01-11T15:15:34.652-08:002010-01-11T15:15:34.652-08:00It's funny, I think pictures of working dogs d...It's funny, I think pictures of working dogs doing what they love and what they were bred to do are some of the most powerful and beautiful pro-animal pictures out there.<br /><br />That's a dog that's happy to do his job of delivering the duck to his owner. Mission accomplished! I wonder if the photo would cause the same consternation in Dog Fancy magazine?DarrenMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04292236956207462996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-26011229027728899282010-01-11T10:59:46.814-08:002010-01-11T10:59:46.814-08:00Chad, you're right. How silly of us!Chad, you're right. How silly of us!Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-15739519992967365542010-01-11T10:53:59.939-08:002010-01-11T10:53:59.939-08:00Hmmm...maybe they just assumed the dog was along n...Hmmm...maybe they just assumed the dog was along not as an integral part of the hunt, but rather for warm, fuzzy companionship? <br /><br />Come on people, didn't any of you see Marley and Me? <br /><br />Everyone knows dogs, when not corrupted by the wanton but regrettably inevitable natural bloodlust of their human masters, are gentle souls who prefer frisbees and bandanas to gunfire and Chad Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13219295562957353591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-85042699467115664242010-01-11T10:51:58.931-08:002010-01-11T10:51:58.931-08:00Wow, beautiful photography.
But I hope they'r...Wow, beautiful photography.<br /><br />But I hope they're not giving the thumbs-up while gnoshing on chicken wings...Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-73484901322457610222010-01-11T10:41:01.422-08:002010-01-11T10:41:01.422-08:00Here's a link to one that got away. I suggest...Here's a link to one that got away. I suggest using the slideshow view (upper right corner of the Flickr page)<br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/pskorupa/sets/72157603944747115/<br /><br />Non-hunting friends and family give this a big thumbs up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-16703810706547350452010-01-11T09:59:33.644-08:002010-01-11T09:59:33.644-08:00It's amazing the reactions that hunting draws....It's amazing the reactions that hunting draws. I was recently having dinner with some of my very foodie friends, veal osso buco and foie gras eating, sustainable agriculture foodie friends. They inquired about recent pig hunt of mine and I asked if they wanted to watch the video on YouTube. I was shocked when they very uncomfortable watching it. Good shot, clean kill, DOA when we got to jryounghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09193725876657316237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-72522403643420594182010-01-11T09:49:23.069-08:002010-01-11T09:49:23.069-08:00And oh yeah, Henhouse: LOL. Great call! I know of ...And oh yeah, Henhouse: LOL. Great call! I know of course that you're joking, but that does touch on another funny thing about nonhunters is the extreme fear of germs from wild things and mouths. I used to feel it too. Now it doesn't faze me at all.<br /><br />And I love what you said about the cheese, because it's how I feel about all meat since I started hunting: Once I order meat atHolly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-90873971826395086462010-01-11T09:42:02.879-08:002010-01-11T09:42:02.879-08:00Gretchen: I think people are used to seeing animal...Gretchen: I think people are used to seeing animals as meat, so even with heads attached, it's somehow more OK.<br /><br />Native: That is a really interesting perspective I hadn't thought of - about them seeing the <em>dog</em> that way. Thanks for adding that to the mix!<br /><br />ArdenwoodPatti: Beautiful photo you linked to, and interesting that you had the same experience with that Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-79308881869454343812010-01-11T09:21:15.183-08:002010-01-11T09:21:15.183-08:00Great post, Holly.
It fits hand in glove with a p...Great post, Holly.<br /><br />It fits hand in glove with a post I'm about to put up about an experience a friend of mine had recently. I'll definitely include a link to your post.<br /><br />Cheers!Tovar Cerullihttp://www.tovarcerulli.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-62737467236342816362010-01-11T08:53:02.533-08:002010-01-11T08:53:02.533-08:00I'm very surprised that this particular photo ...I'm very surprised that this particular photo would offend someone more than the picture of the gentleman taking the scissors to the duck's body.<br /><br />I guess it's because, as you mentioned, that that particular photo is more connected to the time of the death of the duck, moreso than the scissor photo is. And also because a lot of people have a hard time picturing a dog being SimplyOutdoorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074585345161430068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-27632606574159603472010-01-11T08:37:48.465-08:002010-01-11T08:37:48.465-08:00wow, I'm speechless, and sad. The problem (an...wow, I'm speechless, and sad. The problem (and this isn't revealing anything new to people on this blog) is that people are comfortable being VERY distanced from their food source, and that goes for omnivores AND vegetarians. We're content if we see a stand at the local farmer's market, or protein from Whole Paycheck. Honestly, how many of us vet out our "organic" banoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-5356187869156428202010-01-11T08:34:51.601-08:002010-01-11T08:34:51.601-08:00You know I rarely say things like this but, that&#...You know I rarely say things like this but, that's weird... that's just weird.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-57838882348439599342010-01-11T08:27:07.519-08:002010-01-11T08:27:07.519-08:00I think I know what the real problem is - dog coot...I think I know what the real problem is - dog cooties on gourmet food!!! LOL :)<br /><br />What a great post, Holly, and the pictures you chose for the article are a beautiful representation of harvesting your own food. I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis - most people, even the most enlightened, don't really want to know where their food comes from, even when they think they do. Even Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08077677066902349111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-54038020039110834362010-01-11T08:16:11.672-08:002010-01-11T08:16:11.672-08:00Another thoughtful post! Interesting that the dog...Another thoughtful post! Interesting that the dog would inspire the remarks, but perhaps it was as much from the interesting gestures in the photo as from the dead bird? There is something striking but difficult to convey about the hand on the dog's head and the dog's body language. Don't you think?<br /><br />About apologies for taking game, my personal practice is to feel regret Matt Mullenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11198069782508775543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-979868005087257562010-01-11T08:02:41.252-08:002010-01-11T08:02:41.252-08:00This doesn't surprise me at all. Non-hunting ...This doesn't surprise me at all. Non-hunting friends and family who see photos of our dogs retrieving birds are frequently dismayed. "Why is your dog biting that bird?" is a common reaction to this photo -<br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/pskorupa/2444803398/in/set-72157594194730905/<br /><br />Their favorites are usually the ones showing a bird that has escaped the gun andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-80894897333310937302010-01-11T07:04:00.112-08:002010-01-11T07:04:00.112-08:00I believe that the answer to that question Holly w...I believe that the answer to that question Holly would be that people just simply do not want to look at their furry, cuddly Rover laying serenely at their feet beside the fire place.<br /> And then let the thought enter their minds that Rover would eat "Them" in a heartbeat if he was hungry enough!<br /><br />This is why (and rightly so) there is so much pouring of outrage and nativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04428958610230219051noreply@blogger.com