tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post5774485116073349840..comments2024-03-10T01:57:38.017-08:00Comments on NorCal Cazadora: Oh boy, this is bad: Hunt protester shotHolly Heyserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-27970822984181206592011-03-25T17:19:37.279-07:002011-03-25T17:19:37.279-07:00The ducks here in Australia, and I put myself at r...The ducks here in Australia, and I put myself at risk of being told wrong by someone of more learning on the subject, are NOT seasonal migrating birds like the North American birds. Here they follow the the weather/rain/water. Dries up in the south, they'll head up to the Queensland floods. We've had rains and floods here in Victoria, drought over, birds have been breeding several"Bo Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-24586768723941261322011-03-22T18:22:15.306-07:002011-03-22T18:22:15.306-07:00Nicely done, Peebs!Nicely done, Peebs!Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-73434019169113991592011-03-22T16:54:35.573-07:002011-03-22T16:54:35.573-07:00So googled Australia duck hunting and Australia du...So googled Australia duck hunting and Australia duck breeding and looks like their regs are pretty tough. The only breeding I picked up at glance was their woodduck and it breeds Sept. to Nov. figure most ducks probably in the same general period wich puts most new birds at four months which is older than most newbies in Canada.Peebshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500696862042051077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-59655019447366042312011-03-22T09:56:51.578-07:002011-03-22T09:56:51.578-07:00If this hunting season is happening during breedin...If this hunting season is happening during breeding season, I too would have concerns about it. But that was what one of the <em>protesters</em> said, and it doesn't make sense. Think about it, Ingrid. Australia is the opposite of us, so they're in out equivalent of September right now. Ducks don't breed in September - ducklings need to be self-sufficient by this time of year to Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-90930157627481447432011-03-21T23:08:28.875-07:002011-03-21T23:08:28.875-07:00The one thing that's being overlooked is the p...The one thing that's being overlooked is the political mayhem involved in this extended season. There are suggestions that citizen petitions were overlooked in the interest of appeasing politics. This season takes place during breeding season, increasing greatly the potential for orphaned ducklings and so forth. As an animal rescuer, I abide by the law. But I would be beside myself if the Ingridhttp://www.thefreequark.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-75409106443159781112011-03-21T17:15:29.878-07:002011-03-21T17:15:29.878-07:00Jennifer, I think it's clear from subsequent r...Jennifer, I think it's clear from subsequent reports that he was shooting at a duck - one of the protesters said that - so this isn't the worst situation I imagined. Thankfully!<br /><br />I've been doing a lot of reading lately about hunter-gatherers, and I keep thinking how funny they'd think it is that fellow humans get angry with us for hunting. The gods must be crazy indeed!Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-88127273003414450522011-03-21T12:16:06.543-07:002011-03-21T12:16:06.543-07:00Holly - What a horrible story.
England is a small...Holly - What a horrible story.<br /><br />England is a small place with lots of people sharing the green spaces. During hunting season, I have been shouted at by angry people against pheasant shooting in principle. <br /><br />On shoot days, if walkers are using paths near where we're shooting, we stop the drive and offer them a chance to pass. We don;t resume til they're clear.<br /><br Jennifer Monterohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003650742439806128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-72704834103255669422011-03-21T10:46:42.067-07:002011-03-21T10:46:42.067-07:00Bo, I am really happy to have you comment here - t...Bo, I am really happy to have you comment here - thanks for weighing in!<br /><br />I'm glad to hear so many protesters were fined, but I wish for Australian hunters' sake that your police would remove them from the field rather than cite them repeatedly. (I'm basing this on one story quoting a protester talking about how many infringements she got - as if it's a soccer match or Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-56933387348437137522011-03-21T04:22:29.887-07:002011-03-21T04:22:29.887-07:00Holly, I for one had a great week end of duck hunt...Holly, I for one had a great week end of duck hunting here in the state of Victoria. (This weekend was only Victoria, not the whole of Australia) This is taken from an email today from Field & Game Australia: "Over the entire duck season opening weekend, a total of 108 infringement notices were issued across Victoria:<br />· 75 protesters were fined for entering wetlands during a bo Curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-73130022613528312272011-03-20T20:38:25.208-07:002011-03-20T20:38:25.208-07:00Funny thing is that ducks were flying at all with ...<i>Funny thing is that ducks were flying at all with the protesters there. </i><br /><br />Excellent point, and one that I <b>completely</b> missed during the back and forth. Anyone else want to hop on the nearest Qantas jet and go! And, I don't even duck hunt. <br /><br />:-)Bobby Nationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03807803676184520297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-17618038533339601342011-03-20T19:40:59.999-07:002011-03-20T19:40:59.999-07:00Many fair points, Bobby, though I don't think ...Many fair points, Bobby, though I don't think anyone has disputed the taunts, unless I missed that in one of the stories.<br /><br />I don't think the issue would disappear without the taunts: A hunter shot a duck hunting protester, and that's still big news. But yes, that would cast it in a different light.<br /><br />I think we're all agreed on our relief about how hunt Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-38275359670303118752011-03-20T19:03:57.468-07:002011-03-20T19:03:57.468-07:00Holly,
That's not to say an anti-hunter could...Holly,<br /><br /><i>That's not to say an anti-hunter couldn't do this, but any of the legions of us with cell phones could have law enforcement on the spot pretty quickly.</i><br /><br />Amen to that. And, I can't help but be thankful that our law enforcement appears to be more willing to enforce this sort of behavior. From the quotes in the article, the protesters have apparently Bobby Nationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03807803676184520297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-10679543394495439072011-03-20T19:01:36.527-07:002011-03-20T19:01:36.527-07:00Simply,
I can't believe that Australia allows...Simply,<br /><br /><i>I can't believe that Australia allows these protesters to protest like this in the first place; it's just a recipe for an incident like this.</i><br /><br />They don't apparently. Or, at least, they regulate when you can and can't protest. The victim was breaking the law when she was shot.Bobby Nationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03807803676184520297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-1786907783962986442011-03-20T18:58:44.536-07:002011-03-20T18:58:44.536-07:00Holly,
I don't disagree with what you are say...Holly,<br /><br />I don't disagree with what you are saying for the most part. I am however very skeptical on the reports of taunting just prior to the shooting for the reasons given above. Let's be frank, it's the charges of taunting that place this incident into such an unfavorable light for both hunters and non-hunters alike. And on that point, I simply don't believe the Bobby Nationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03807803676184520297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-72906825396207193602011-03-20T18:12:22.817-07:002011-03-20T18:12:22.817-07:00Meant to say, "Not that an anti-hunter couldn...Meant to say, "Not that an anti-hunter couldn't do this <em>here</em>."Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-16466943066702912242011-03-20T18:08:31.887-07:002011-03-20T18:08:31.887-07:00Another bit of information: New story says a frien...Another bit of information: <a href="http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/03/21/308781_latest-news.html" rel="nofollow">New story</a> says a friend of the woman who got shot says he was aiming for a duck.<br /><br />And amen, Simply. The new story quotes the head of a hunting group saying they've been dealing with these protests for 20 years. Thank God we nipped this in the bud back Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-17916660816885092532011-03-20T17:14:55.384-07:002011-03-20T17:14:55.384-07:00I can't believe that Australia allows these pr...I can't believe that Australia allows these protesters to protest like this in the first place; it's just a recipe for an incident like this.<br /><br />And...if you're a protester, and you're going to venture into the hunter's domain, and openly protest his legal activities, then you know you're taking a chance that you could put yourself in the wrong place at the wrong SimplyOutdoorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074585345161430068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-78845769973722083362011-03-20T14:04:30.428-07:002011-03-20T14:04:30.428-07:00Phillip: I'm waiting to hear more. All this wo...Phillip: I'm waiting to hear more. All this woman has said so far is that she was shot, and now there's <a href="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/victim-julia-symons-close-to-being-blinded/story-e6frf7kx-1226025057341" rel="nofollow">new news</a> today of her saying she's lucky not to have lost an eye. She hasn't said, "That little f***er laughed as he shot me."Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-59201530104391211352011-03-20T14:04:20.685-07:002011-03-20T14:04:20.685-07:00Bobby: If I had protesters in my face like that wh...Bobby: If I had protesters in my face like that while I was trying to hunt, it would be hard for ME to refrain from yelling at them. For a 14-year-old boy who has had little time to learn impulse control, I imagine the temptation to taunt would be irresistible. That just doesn't strike me as implausible.<br /><br />And I agree that professional protesters manufacture drama, and at the very Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-61960346233603712862011-03-20T11:59:05.107-07:002011-03-20T11:59:05.107-07:00Maybe next time this woman will the leave the hunt...Maybe next time this woman will the leave the hunters alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-75654131069943084012011-03-20T09:19:56.281-07:002011-03-20T09:19:56.281-07:00Hi Holly,
I still can't believe that the boy s...Hi Holly,<br />I still can't believe that the boy shot her on purpose, and since the police deemed it an accident, that confirms my opinion for now. I'll wait for further updates. Scofflaws in front of guns are a bunch of foolishness, if you ask me, better to protest at DFG meetings, or the street, rather than get into a confrontation. Picking up cripples, instead of letting the Richard Mellotthttp://mrmellott1003.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-56154994147831009272011-03-20T08:56:32.478-07:002011-03-20T08:56:32.478-07:00From the article, I couldn't make out fault on...From the article, I couldn't make out fault on anyone's side for the shooting. Based on the fact that she had only seven pellet wounds, it doesn't sound like any kind of face-to-face confrontation, and to be honest, except for the hearsay about the boy taunting the protester and the fact that the cops took him in, I can't even find where it suggests that the boy was the shooter (Philliphttp://www.hog-blog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-9962081206547590652011-03-20T08:41:42.460-07:002011-03-20T08:41:42.460-07:00Holly, This is part of our world people belive ver...Holly, This is part of our world people belive very strongly on both sides that they are right, so sometimes the outcome is not very good. She was in the wrong for interupting a lawful hunt and should be charged as such. Just think if it is an accident how the young boy must feel. I know what the lady is going through as I was shot in the face 2 years by a client how did not listen and a resultKevin McNeilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151560036275024175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-18356384255222063362011-03-20T06:46:14.571-07:002011-03-20T06:46:14.571-07:00Holly,
Color me skeptical that there was any taun...Holly,<br /><br />Color me skeptical that there was any taunting or overt bad acting on the hunters' part here. Whenever I see something like this line in a story, it trips the media bias flag for me.<br /><br /><i>When the Sunday Herald Sun arrived on the scene less than two minutes later</i><br /><br />No witnesses are named in any of the stories involved, so there's no way to verify Bobby Nationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03807803676184520297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-37513837796209301082011-03-19T22:01:00.449-07:002011-03-19T22:01:00.449-07:00Hell, even California has laws against interfering...Hell, even California has laws against interfering with hunts and hunter harassment.<br /><br />Just found <a href="http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8226253/hunting-protestor-taunted-before-shooting" rel="nofollow">another story</a> on this incident in which one of the protesters was bragging about how many citations she got today for being out in the water during the hunt. That is just an Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.com