tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post5799288158182447629..comments2024-03-10T01:57:38.017-08:00Comments on NorCal Cazadora: Hunters, religion and politicsHolly Heyserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-18196500692648877932008-10-09T08:38:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:38:00.000-07:00Interesting. Our organizations often have auxiliar...Interesting. Our organizations often have auxiliaries created under separate laws that allow them to get involved in politics. Thanks for chiming in on this!Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-37153646988628765542008-10-09T08:24:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:24:00.000-07:00...Rob Gray of the UK's Countryside Alliance point......Rob Gray of the UK's Countryside Alliance points out that "due to UK law the Alliance, BASC or any other campaigning organisation cannot express preference for political parties," and says that his organisation don't have any data on members' political leanings.James Marchingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08109578008088776428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-39486736895833757882008-10-09T06:53:00.000-07:002008-10-09T06:53:00.000-07:00Interesting discussion... here in the UK shooters ...Interesting discussion... here in the UK shooters aren't so politicised - we just feel picked on by government as a whole! The foxhunting issue was largely about class, and became very political. The anti-shooting organisations do their best to portray shooters as chinless toffs in tweeds, because that helps to whip up hatred among the general public - but even the most ignorant member of the James Marchingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08109578008088776428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-86851696189346476162008-10-08T05:46:00.000-07:002008-10-08T05:46:00.000-07:00It's funny - after the debate last night, there wa...It's funny - after the debate last night, there was an AARP ad where they've morphed the donkey and the elephant into one creature. I forget the exact slogan, but the point is that united, people can make a difference.<BR/><BR/>And it's true. Politicians don't eff with old people, regardless of party, because old people exert a lot of unity and power on Capitol Hill,Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-89833721494157359722008-10-08T00:07:00.000-07:002008-10-08T00:07:00.000-07:00Very interesting post. It's just proof, once again...Very interesting post. It's just proof, once again, that it's damned impossible to stereotype the pursuers of a hobby or anything into who or what they vote for.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully we can someday get away from the incessant polarization and us vs. them mindset.Brandon Darnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06114956072844140948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-37483875951166619202008-10-07T17:30:00.000-07:002008-10-07T17:30:00.000-07:00That surprised me too, but I'm guessing the 16 per...That surprised me too, but I'm guessing the 16 percent who refused to answer chipped in some more votes for Bush. (I should've included the "refused" figure in the chart, but I'd made each chart three times already, fixing this and that, and decided it was time to fish or cut bait.)<BR/><BR/>I don't have anything on current polling. It's really hard to get hunter/angler attitudes in surveys Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-31595846695567052462008-10-07T16:35:00.000-07:002008-10-07T16:35:00.000-07:00I did notice one surprise, and that is that only 5...I did notice one surprise, and that is that only 53% voted for Bush in '04. That's pretty low, if you ask me, considering how many were self-described conservatives. <BR/><BR/>Have you seen any numbers for the upcoming election?Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-87819691531792127462008-10-07T14:40:00.000-07:002008-10-07T14:40:00.000-07:00Good stuff. Not a lot of suprises, but the AH HA f...Good stuff. Not a lot of suprises, but the AH HA for me is the reminder that we need to work, as Holly says, to get both the Dems and Reps beholden to us. So true, so true. I don't care who you vote for, so long as you let that person know how much hunting and gun ownership mean to you. Great post Holly.Jon Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517639796366064724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-38706279380520998582008-10-07T14:27:00.000-07:002008-10-07T14:27:00.000-07:00Holly,I've come to love your data crunching ways. ...Holly,<BR/><BR/>I've come to love your data crunching ways. Very intriguing stuff. The data honestly wasn't far off from what I would've guessed. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for doing all the work though and showing the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I love data.SimplyOutdoorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074585345161430068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-30679040268506087442008-10-07T14:00:00.000-07:002008-10-07T14:00:00.000-07:00Very interesting data... thanks Holly!Very interesting data... thanks Holly!Blessedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00029860506890356566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-40032686879526042482008-10-07T11:39:00.000-07:002008-10-07T11:39:00.000-07:00That's hilarious! Now, will someone please send th...That's hilarious! Now, will someone please send that to Obama so he learns a little something about hunters?Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-32630773226347878682008-10-07T06:38:00.000-07:002008-10-07T06:38:00.000-07:00I love it when you crunch data Holly. You always ...I love it when you crunch data Holly. You always bring up interesting points. <BR/><BR/>I'd also be interested in seeing how the numbers from Great Britain breakdown as well. The different attitudes about hunting that different countries have fascinate me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-76669816988427227142008-10-07T06:11:00.000-07:002008-10-07T06:11:00.000-07:00SBW, I'd be very interested to hear about that. Al...SBW, I'd be <I>very</I> interested to hear about that. All I know about politics and guns over there is that hunting is tied much more to class.Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-59700248909820778582008-10-07T06:00:00.000-07:002008-10-07T06:00:00.000-07:00Fascinating stuff, let's ask James what he thinks ...Fascinating stuff, let's ask James what he thinks the mix would be on this side of the pond. <BR/>Assumption tells me I'm probably the only gun totin' liberal in town. <BR/>Cheers<BR/>SBWThe Suburban Bushwackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09372690405902840131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-52028522526794732652008-10-06T21:26:00.000-07:002008-10-06T21:26:00.000-07:00Two percent "didn't know" who they v...Two percent "didn't know" who they voted for (hello?), and 16 percent refused to answer. And good point on the mods voting for Kerry too.<BR/><BR/>Also: I forgot to mention that 25 percent of the hunters and anglers surveyed were women (which closely matches U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service data).Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-75026467389873833742008-10-06T21:21:00.000-07:002008-10-06T21:21:00.000-07:00Great stuff! I just wanted to point out that you ...Great stuff! I just wanted to point out that you assumed that only the self-described liberals would have voted for Kerry, but many people who declared moderate (or even conservative) may have voted for him, also. <BR/><BR/>By the way, who did the other 18% vote for? Perot?Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.com