tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post6753970293969674256..comments2024-03-10T01:57:38.017-08:00Comments on NorCal Cazadora: An amazing read: The Vegetarian MythHolly Heyserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-755225403227458542010-07-24T18:10:44.882-07:002010-07-24T18:10:44.882-07:00Hey folks, Cork Graham has done an interview with ...Hey folks, Cork Graham has done an interview with Lierre Keith, which you can listen to <a href="http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/the-vegetarian-myth-by-lierre-keith-book-review/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The MP3s are at the end, one interview in four pieces (when one stops, click on the next).Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-80657888384095888592010-07-06T07:42:47.385-07:002010-07-06T07:42:47.385-07:00I am reading the book now. It will probably take m...I am reading the book now. It will probably take me a few weeks to digest it. She has interesting ideas but she also seems as if to move merely from one conspiracy theory to a new conspiracy theory. Not too crazy about what I see as man hating, either, but I will keep reading.<br /><br />JeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-72103792203936969652010-06-22T06:57:15.003-07:002010-06-22T06:57:15.003-07:00That would be "how WE (don't) relate to n...That would be "how WE (don't) relate to nature."Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-17878872000787743312010-06-22T06:56:33.549-07:002010-06-22T06:56:33.549-07:00Hey, Michelle! Talking to plants (or animals, ston...Hey, Michelle! Talking to plants (or animals, stones, etc) only sounds odd in our modern cultural context. In other cultures, it's entirely normal.<br /><br />And, in the broad context of human history, the oddest-sounding creatures of all are us modern people...including how (don't) relate to nature!Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-57957683691474559682010-06-22T06:29:42.566-07:002010-06-22T06:29:42.566-07:00I should buy lots of copies of this book and take ...I should buy lots of copies of this book and take with us on our Hunt.Fish.Feed tour to hand out! Thanks for the review, Holly. <br />And I, too, talk to my plants. Sometimes sing. I believe they can hear me. Odd, I know.Michelle Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-82647318469032295752010-06-17T07:43:43.504-07:002010-06-17T07:43:43.504-07:00Thank you Holly, but no blog for me. You will just...Thank you Holly, but no blog for me. You will just have to put up with my erratic posting here. Even with my current employment status, it seems I have too many irons in the fire.<br /><br />I think the first sentence of the quote came came from an arguement with a "starch-itarian". You know, the folks who don't eat meat, don't like vegetables, but eat lots of pasta, etc. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-4470528800781565162010-06-14T14:17:54.797-07:002010-06-14T14:17:54.797-07:00"My arguement to vegetarians for a long time ..."My arguement to vegetarians for a long time is that they eat they things that cannot run away from them. Although I suppose the same could be said of factory farming."<br /><br />Wow, well put, Jean.<br /><br />So when are you going to start your own blog? Seems to me you've got lots to say!Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-9566236311443058562010-06-11T07:35:14.306-07:002010-06-11T07:35:14.306-07:00I'm not a trekkie but I do remember the horta....I'm not a trekkie but I do remember the horta.<br /><br />I will go get a copy of the Vegetarian Myth. Except for the radical feminist hooey, it sounds fascinating.<br /><br />My husband has been reading as many of the studies that he can get his hands on for the book "Good Calories Bad Calories" by G. Taubes. One of the studies that showed eating meat is hard on your kidneys was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-74350021813522366472010-06-09T10:41:23.435-07:002010-06-09T10:41:23.435-07:00There was another big globby thing too. But that w...There was another big globby thing too. But that was in the original Star Trek. Aliens in the newer (and more prolific) versions were remarkably anthropomorphic and bipedal.Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-30202097013684946112010-06-09T10:34:13.545-07:002010-06-09T10:34:13.545-07:00Matt, she should have yelled, "you used butte...Matt, she should have yelled, "you used butter! This is delicious!" Unfortunately, Holly here told me they spiked it with cayenne pepper, so it burned her eyes.<br /><br />Holly, this does sound like an interesting read for sure. I will defend the Star Trek here and say that there were other types of life forms beyond the funny-forehead people. I believe they include an oil slick Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-26641181356901519692010-06-09T10:07:05.975-07:002010-06-09T10:07:05.975-07:00Hmmmm... I'm wondering if the vegan's who...Hmmmm... I'm wondering if the vegan's who pied Keith used whipped cream pies? (typically the filler of choice when preparing such projectiles) Wouldn't that be hypocritical?Matt Amesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-72437631354786554312010-06-09T09:06:48.686-07:002010-06-09T09:06:48.686-07:00Buhner's Lost Language of Plants is definitely...Buhner's Lost Language of Plants is definitely next on my list - I'd love to learn more about them. And I love being pushed to think beyond the Star Trek norm of other life forms having two legs, two arms and a head - we need to understand life can be meaningful without looking like us.Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-91570504664729039302010-06-09T08:49:49.934-07:002010-06-09T08:49:49.934-07:00The parts about the plant communication is very in...The parts about the plant communication is very intriguing to me. I know it isn't the type the book talks about (or is it?) but I was telling my husband just last night that I think my somewhat dying cilantro plant specifically sent branches out in one direction to cover my parsley plant (which is now thriving since it's received that bit of shade). <br /><br />I'm going to check Cheryl Hargraveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09120641318472599223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-80256259416650405062010-06-09T06:33:22.806-07:002010-06-09T06:33:22.806-07:00P.S. If anyone wants to read a mini-version of the...P.S. If anyone wants to read a mini-version of the book, Keith has a new article in Mother Earth News: http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-community/the-truth-about-vegetarianism.aspxTovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-18167816219930631572010-06-09T03:59:41.845-07:002010-06-09T03:59:41.845-07:00Yes! "I'm not asking you to agree with me...Yes! "I'm not asking you to agree with me, only to observe." How much we could gain from putting that sentiment into practice, concerning diet and so many other things!Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-392909090152089282010-06-08T20:33:30.127-07:002010-06-08T20:33:30.127-07:00It is a phenomenal thing when one can be persuasiv...It is a phenomenal thing when one can be persuasive, and make us think, but not shove their version of what they believe down our throats. <br /><br />I'm definitely going to have to pick up this book, and try to fit it into my schedule.<br /><br />Good, good stuff!SimplyOutdoorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074585345161430068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-69059000717761081012010-06-08T20:20:31.712-07:002010-06-08T20:20:31.712-07:00Thank you! There's even more interesting stuff...Thank you! There's even more interesting stuff in the book than I could cover in this small post. And there's a fair amount of stuff in the book that doesn't interest me. For example, Keith is a radical feminist, and I'm pretty much not a radical anything, so the radical elements of the book didn't resonate with me.<br /><br />But there was another thing that really did, and Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-69788139062592645272010-06-08T18:15:02.274-07:002010-06-08T18:15:02.274-07:00I'm very intrigued by book - even more so afte...I'm very intrigued by book - even more so after reading about it here, and also seeing it mentioned on Tovar's blog.<br /><br />I'm very curious about the plant "communication". Although I still would not even begin to compare them to human beings, it still intrigues me that they do have a pretty efficient communication/defense system.<br /><br />Great stuff, Holly. It'SimplyOutdoorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14074585345161430068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5478505267875308908.post-48564149169418139812010-06-08T16:41:51.342-07:002010-06-08T16:41:51.342-07:00I’m glad you enjoyed the book so much, Holly!
Lik...I’m glad you enjoyed the book so much, Holly!<br /><br />Like you, I haven’t seen or done a thorough analysis of Keith’s research and arguments. And there are parts of the book that just didn’t resonate for me. But I, too, found it very thought-provoking.<br /><br />Given my own journey, I found it particularly interesting to read Keith’s account of how she came to terms with the fact that, as Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.com